Flight Simulator · Van Nuys Airport · KVNY

Full Flight Simulator Vs Training Devices: What Each One Is For

Read the guide, then see it from the left seat. A $229 discovery flight puts you on the controls over Los Angeles with an FAA-certificated instructor.

$229Discovery Flight, 60 Min
$349First Lesson, 2 Hours
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10AM–7PMDiscovery Flights, 7 Days
Los Angeles basin at sunset seen over the engine nacelle of a Piper Seminole in flight

"Full flight simulator" is a specific FAA term, not a general one. It means the airline-grade devices used for type ratings. Most flight schools, including ours, use a different category of device. Here's how they differ and what each can count for.

The Four Types Of FAA-Recognized Devices

Device What It Is Typical Use
Full Flight Simulator (FFS) A full replica of one aircraft type on a motion platform, qualified under 14 CFR Part 60 at Levels A to D Airline type ratings and recurrent training
Flight Training Device (FTD) A replica cockpit of a specific aircraft, usually without full motion Procedures and systems training
Advanced Aviation Training Device (AATD) FAA-approved device with a more complete flight model and avionics Instrument training and currency, plus some other credit
Basic Aviation Training Device (BATD) Entry-level FAA-approved device Limited instrument training and currency

How Many Hours Can Count

  • Private pilot: Up to 2.5 hours in an FFS or FTD, with an authorized instructor (14 CFR 61.109(k)).
  • Instrument rating: Up to 20 hours in an advanced aviation training device, or 10 in a basic one. The total across all devices is capped at 20 hours outside a Part 142 training center (14 CFR 61.65(i) and (j)).
  • Commercial pilot: Up to 50 hours in an FFS or FTD with an authorized instructor (14 CFR 61.129(i)).

Credit for aviation training devices also depends on the device's FAA Letter of Authorization. Your instructor confirms how each session can be logged.

Where Full Motion Fits In

Motion isn't what makes a device count. It's what makes it feel real. Our MCX full-motion simulator at Van Nuys tilts, rolls and pitches with your inputs, so steep turns, stalls and landings feel closer to the airplane. Students use it for instrument practice, emergencies and weather days. An hour with an instructor is $189. Book the simulator.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is A Full Flight Simulator The Same As A Full-Motion Simulator?

No. "Full flight simulator" is an FAA qualification for airline-grade devices. Many smaller devices have full motion without being an FFS.

Can I Log Simulator Time Toward My Instrument Rating?

Yes, within the limits in 14 CFR 61.65, when an authorized instructor gives the training in an approved device.

Can I Try The Simulator Without Being A Student?

Yes. The Full-Motion Flight Simulator Experience is open to anyone, with no weight limit, and it's never canceled for weather.

Pick Your Flight

Choose Your Flight And Book It

Every flight leaves from Van Nuys Airport with an FAA-certificated instructor. The $229 discovery flight is credited in full toward training if you enroll within 24 hours.

Piper Warrior N3034Q, front quarter, beside an open hangar at Van Nuys Airport
PIPER WARRIOR · 160 HP · LOW WING
The Classic 60–120 Min

Discovery Flight For One

Credited in full toward your training if you enroll within 24 hours.

One seat, one instructor, no audience. You take the controls once we are clear of the Van Nuys pattern, and your instructor signs the time into your logbook if you bring one.

  • Hands-on stick time
  • Pre-flight briefing and walk-around
  • Hollywood Sign and downtown
  • One-on-one with an FAA-certified instructor
  • Bring your logbook, we sign it

Flight Length

$229all-in · one flyer · 60 minutes

Book For One

Weight limit 180 lb for the person flying.

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Piper Warrior N6312C, a four-seat low-wing trainer, parked on a sunny ramp
PIPER WARRIOR · FOUR SEATS
★ Most Popular 60–120 Min

Discovery Flight For Two Over Downtown

Logged as dual instruction toward the 40-hour minimum for a private license.

One of you flies while the other rides on the intercom and ends up as the photographer. The route runs past the Hollywood Sign and around the downtown towers.

  • Two seats in the Piper Warrior
  • Headsets for both of you
  • Hollywood Sign and the downtown towers
  • Hands-on flying for one of you
  • Pre-flight briefing and walk-around

Flight Length

$299all-in · two seats · 60 minutes

Book For Two

Weight limit 360 lb combined.

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A student flying the Redbird MCX full-motion simulator at You Fly LA, Van Nuys Airport
REDBIRD MCX · FAA-APPROVED AATD
Never Cancelled 60 Min

Full-Motion Simulator Session

An FAA-approved AATD, so an instructor can log the hour with you.

The one that never leaves the ground. A Redbird MCX on full motion with an instructor beside you, and no weather call to make in the morning.

  • Redbird MCX on full motion
  • An instructor in the seat beside you
  • Never cancelled for weather
  • No weight limit

Flight Length

$189all-in · one seat · 60 minutes

Book The Simulator

No weight limit, and nothing to cancel if the marine layer sits on the Valley.

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Take The Controls Over Los Angeles

Sixty minutes in the left seat from Van Nuys Airport, with an FAA-certificated instructor beside you, for $229. The two-hour first lesson is $349, and the consultation is free.